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presidential is like, son, that's theory, let me tell you what the practice is. you're talking about, first of all, you're lying or you're d disassembling or disingenuous or you're telling a bold face reality here. so you've got to -- i've got to believe this, i go back to this, i know governor rendell, my former governor in pennsylvania, here's the reality, obama doesn't have the latitude that white guys who speak with vigor do. i'm not suggesting he can't have passion. i'm not suggesting his stylistic approach, which he's been noted for as governor rendell indicated all of that fox news weighs on him. >> let me -- let me talk did. >> avery good point. he can't get angry but he can get proud. >> no doubt. >> given what happened there, you can't blame the referee, jim lehrer, he didn't have his best night. you can't blame matter of anger and race. he lost. he's got to face that. >> it's not about blaming. it's about accounting for in a way -- >> i want to talk about one moment in particular. and that's the end of the debate, right? everybody knows they're going t
presidential is like, son, that's theory, let me tell you what the practice is. you're talking about, first of all, you're lying or you're d disassembling or disingenuous or you're telling a bold face reality here. so you've got to -- i've got to believe this, i go back to this, i know governor rendell, my former governor in pennsylvania, here's the reality, obama doesn't have the latitude that white guys who speak with vigor do. i'm not suggesting he can't have passion. i'm not suggesting his...
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cupp, that plus mortal -- mortal political combat meets presidential politics. yeah, we are going there. >> get ready for a special edition of "the cycle" on this debate wednesday, october 3rd. it starts right now. >>> it is debate day at the university of denver. as i said, we are just six hours away. you know, when i think of major events in denver, i always think of don meredith you can the old monday night football broadcaster who said, welcome to the city that's mile high and so am i. i'm not high the way don was but high with excitement in anticipation for this debate tonight. we have been waiting, it seems, for months for this thing. let's set the stage before we get going. you know, sometimes i think the cliche cliches are true. this is one of them. we heard talk about how? a do-or-die for mitt romney n a lot of ways it really is. there are basically three possible outcomes, the way i see it tonight. someone that romney really does get some kind of a lift out of this it's a command performance, maybe some kind of slipup by obama. you think of john kerry
cupp, that plus mortal -- mortal political combat meets presidential politics. yeah, we are going there. >> get ready for a special edition of "the cycle" on this debate wednesday, october 3rd. it starts right now. >>> it is debate day at the university of denver. as i said, we are just six hours away. you know, when i think of major events in denver, i always think of don meredith you can the old monday night football broadcaster who said, welcome to the city that's...
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between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means, but i made the final selections, and for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advance, will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the role of government, and governing, with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, boos, h
between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of...
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he has to perform. >> he has to look more presidential than in london. he has to say the economy looks worse than it does right now. and the 47% comment he was caught making where he basically cashiered half of the country out of existence. will romney be hawned by that 47% comment? here's one of the best lines of the year, bill clinton, up in new hampshire, his old stomping grounds. here he is taking on romney. this guy is a killer these dies. let's watch clinton destroy romney. >> i couldn't believe the other day when -- when the president's opponents said that the 47% of the american people who don't pay income tax just want to hang around, be dependent on the government and, you know, we just had to wean them off of that. because they didn't want to pay income tax. now, a guy with a tax account in the caymen islands is attacking other people for not wanting -- you have to give him credit, like i said. >> i love it when they put it together. when they put it together, this guy, bunch of bumz that don't want to pay the taxes and then a guy with a quart
he has to perform. >> he has to look more presidential than in london. he has to say the economy looks worse than it does right now. and the 47% comment he was caught making where he basically cashiered half of the country out of existence. will romney be hawned by that 47% comment? here's one of the best lines of the year, bill clinton, up in new hampshire, his old stomping grounds. here he is taking on romney. this guy is a killer these dies. let's watch clinton destroy romney. >>...
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president obama was not listening to that. what happened? >> well, you know what? i think ed schultz made a lot of good points but you look at his exchange with the obama campaign manager. he said everybody knows about the 47%. i think the biggest problem for the obama campaign last night was they had a presumption that everybody knows the facts so they don't have to relitigate the facts in a debate. the problem is you have to come into every debate as if nobody knows anything because what mitt romney was able to do was to present a completely different person and a much more aggressive person. and as ed said, ask for the job. so i think the next time what the president needs to do is to litigate that debate as if nobody knows the facts about 47%, bain capital, all the indictable things about mitt romney. he did not do that last night. >> those who watch the political observationists say and know republicans are doing the happy dance today. this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out
president obama was not listening to that. what happened? >> well, you know what? i think ed schultz made a lot of good points but you look at his exchange with the obama campaign manager. he said everybody knows about the 47%. i think the biggest problem for the obama campaign last night was they had a presumption that everybody knows the facts so they don't have to relitigate the facts in a debate. the problem is you have to come into every debate as if nobody knows anything because...
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presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are th
presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him...
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up next, two tapes cause a stir on the eve of the presidential debates. one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news org
up next, two tapes cause a stir on the eve of the presidential debates. one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the...
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and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this presidential election. i'm joined by governor ed rendell and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a dissaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving romney a second look. obama tyke looked tired, even bored. he kept looking down. he wasn't there. the person with authority on that stage was romney. offered by one of the lamest moderators ever and seized with relish. this was romney the salesman and my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. it's beyond depressing, but it's true. gentlemen, that's a tough assessment. it's matched by this, i'm showing you one of the strongest headlines, a full banner basically giving it completely to romney last night. governor rendell, you have been in a lot of tough debates. i don'
and both are big questions tonight that might just decide this presidential election. i'm joined by governor ed rendell and ron reagan, both msnbc analysts. this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a dissaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving...
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he does not look presidential. bill clinton and the president have been able to build up the notion that the economy's better than we thought. 57% of the people think that the economy is getting better. what a dramatic advantage. >> well, i agree with steve. this is mitt's moment. he said months ago to supporters just wait until i get on the stage with the president. just wait until i get to confront him, when i get to explain my version of reality versus his. that's when i'm going to shine. and he has to do it tonight. i agree with you and steve, that he has to be specific. he has to be detailed. partly because people haven't warmed to mitt romney as a person. they don't really trust him yet as a person. all the more important that he set out a specific plan, that makes sense. and that he does it in a humane way. i agree with steve. he has to be -- it's okay if he's serious but he has to make it clear that he wants the job. he wants to be hired by the american people for this job because he wants to help all of th
he does not look presidential. bill clinton and the president have been able to build up the notion that the economy's better than we thought. 57% of the people think that the economy is getting better. what a dramatic advantage. >> well, i agree with steve. this is mitt's moment. he said months ago to supporters just wait until i get on the stage with the president. just wait until i get to confront him, when i get to explain my version of reality versus his. that's when i'm going to...
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. >> you know what i'm looking to right now is the vice presidential debate? people give biden such a hard time, he's the gaffe machine. i remember when biden was known as a really good communicator, and you know what? there's a difference between biden and obama and how they are in debates and how they approach crowds. biden looks for the guts of the audience and pitches the message to their guts. i'm sure to see how biden does it. >> he's been there and paul ryan has not. >> i think next time if it's a boring debate, we should bring in herman cain, rick perry and newt gingrich just for fun. >> herman cain would be winning right now according to herman cain. >> you've heard our initial reactions. up next we have reactions from the heartland and the capital. we go to des moines, iowa and go to luke russert in washington to see where one of these candidates will end up. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this
. >> you know what i'm looking to right now is the vice presidential debate? people give biden such a hard time, he's the gaffe machine. i remember when biden was known as a really good communicator, and you know what? there's a difference between biden and obama and how they are in debates and how they approach crowds. biden looks for the guts of the audience and pitches the message to their guts. i'm sure to see how biden does it. >> he's been there and paul ryan has not. >>...
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steve, what do you think happened to obama? >> i think he prepared and showed up for a news conference, not a debate. he answered the questions -- >> but there weren't any questions. lehrer didn't see it as his role -- >> we can talk about lehrer separately. i think what they were trying to accomplish is their view was the mitt romney campaign wasn't going very well, mitt romney wasn't doing a particularly good job, and they would play rope-a-dope and sort of run out the clock on the campaign. >> why didn't he come -- let's start with something that's not technical or tricky. usually when you know you're going to have an hour and a half before the american people, i can't imagine that, and you say you get 45 minutes of that hour and a half, you get about half the time, he got a little more than half, you have something to say. he didn't talk about the auto industry, he didn't talk about lilly ledbetter, he didn't talk about equal pay, didn't talk about the things he cared about. >> and he didn't talk about all the things the ca
steve, what do you think happened to obama? >> i think he prepared and showed up for a news conference, not a debate. he answered the questions -- >> but there weren't any questions. lehrer didn't see it as his role -- >> we can talk about lehrer separately. i think what they were trying to accomplish is their view was the mitt romney campaign wasn't going very well, mitt romney wasn't doing a particularly good job, and they would play rope-a-dope and sort of run out the clock...
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this. >> obama care is on my list. i use that name with -- >> one note from the bach about the 2008 campaign about debates. mr. pluff put it in his book published tonight, mr. obama was not a strong debater and derided the whole exercise of boiling down complex answers to 20 or 30-second sound bytes his staff was nervous when he faced mrs. clinton one of the most formidable figures in the party. 24 could be an unmitigated disaster, said mr. axelrod but in tend, mrs. obama did win. the minimalist verdict, that could have been a lot worse. that was the view of obama as a debater from the men who have stuck with him for this current campaign are thinks first campaign when he was trying to win the nomination. certainly we're hearing the obama said trying to spin this as maybe not as bad as everybody thinks it was from the democratic side but it seems likes everybody thinks it was pretty bad from the democratic side. as the night goes on in terms of your overall big-picture response, are your feelings of this being mitigate
this. >> obama care is on my list. i use that name with -- >> one note from the bach about the 2008 campaign about debates. mr. pluff put it in his book published tonight, mr. obama was not a strong debater and derided the whole exercise of boiling down complex answers to 20 or 30-second sound bytes his staff was nervous when he faced mrs. clinton one of the most formidable figures in the party. 24 could be an unmitigated disaster, said mr. axelrod but in tend, mrs. obama did win....
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obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romney, more hyper, and i don't mean that in a negative way, just sort of more amped, more assertive. and that manifests in a way that the debate format was just dismantled. the format and i think the moderator, with all due respect to mr. lehrer dismantled. this is one of those debates, you could predict the score more by time of possession in terms of who was speaking more. then you could by any oth
obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was...
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. >>> four years ago, there was no incumbent in the presidential debates. >> if you want to run against president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the na
. >>> four years ago, there was no incumbent in the presidential debates. >> if you want to run against president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive...
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there are still two more presidential debates. and mr. obama has the facts on his side to expose the hollowness of his opponent, but first he has to decide to use them aggressively. i think a lot of people felt that way. >> jon meacham, you'd have to go back to the 2004 bush debate. first bush debate to find a clear winner like we had last night. when you have even liberal publications, liberal editorial pages saying that barack obama didn't show up, and mitt romney won it going away. >> i think that's right. and i think -- it's interesting that incumbent presidents, as we've been talking about, you know, are not accustomed to this forum. it's been a long time since he's been challenged like that. i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i
there are still two more presidential debates. and mr. obama has the facts on his side to expose the hollowness of his opponent, but first he has to decide to use them aggressively. i think a lot of people felt that way. >> jon meacham, you'd have to go back to the 2004 bush debate. first bush debate to find a clear winner like we had last night. when you have even liberal publications, liberal editorial pages saying that barack obama didn't show up, and mitt romney won it going away....
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former presidential candidate newt gingrich and senior obama adviser david axelrod were asked if obama should have called out romney if he thought his opponent was being dishonest. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework, if he had actually prepared, if he had actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? why didn't he take romney head on? first of all, the charge on the tax cuts is just plain wrong and i think virtually every analyst has said, and even your deputy campaign manager said the charge is wrong. but forgetting that for a second, the job of the president is supposed to be to be confident and to be able to stand up for what he believes in and to be able to articulate what's wrong. mitt romney walked over him. >> i will be honest with you, i think he was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which governor romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run, walked away from his record. and that's something we'll have to make an adjustment for. it takes a certain, as president clinton would say, it takes a ce
former presidential candidate newt gingrich and senior obama adviser david axelrod were asked if obama should have called out romney if he thought his opponent was being dishonest. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework, if he had actually prepared, if he had actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? why didn't he take romney head on? first of all, the charge on the tax cuts is just plain wrong and i think virtually every analyst has...